"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
08/21/2020 at 10:27 • Filed to: None
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"Takuro Spirit" (takurospirit)
08/21/2020 at 10:27 • Filed to: None | 5
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You were taken away at too young an age
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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> Takuro Spirit
08/21/2020 at 10:49 |
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Kinda legit sad. Practically every white suburban family had at least one at some point
i86hotdogs
> Takuro Spirit
08/21/2020 at 10:54 |
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I’m not crying, you’re crying
facw
> Takuro Spirit
08/21/2020 at 10:55 |
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I can’t get too worked up over this. I mean they have another minivan, which is functionally the replacement , and that they could have just as easily branded as a Caravan. I guess I’m just not too attached to specific nameplates.
ranwhenparked
> facw
08/21/2020 at 11:01 |
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I liked that FCA were still building a cheap, no frills, functionally capable vehicle at a low price for families and fleets on a budget, instead of going all in on planned obsolescence and change for the sake of change. I wish more manufacturers kept their still perfectly fine older models in production alongside their newer replacements for people that just want a cheaper option and don't care about the latest and greatest. I mean, if it's still profitable, keep making it until it isn't.
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facw
> ranwhenparked
08/21/2020 at 11:06 |
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if it’s still profitable, keep making it until it isn’t.
We may well be at that point with the Caravan though, it’s been obsolete for a while.
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ranwhenparked
> facw
08/21/2020 at 11:09 |
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That’s likely what happened. FCA said they’d build it until it became unprofitable, or until it was no longer possible or cost effective to keep in compliance with regulatory changes.
The second bit is what doomed the Crown Victoria, Ford couldn't justify spending the money to upgrade a 20 year old body to meet new side impact standards.
Roadkilled
> ranwhenparked
08/21/2020 at 11:25 |
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The market has split and FCA had to face reality. They couldn’t produce one vehicle that met the demands of fleet sales and consumers.
The ProMaster and ProMaster City are better vehicles for fleet sales than the Caravan was. This is what they are designed for.
The consumer market went upscale long ago. Toyota and Honda came to dominate the market by providing high-end minivans. The name “Caravan” carries to much history to compete at that high end, so the Pacifica branding works better.
That being said, I don’t see an answer for large families on a budget.
jminer
> Takuro Spirit
08/21/2020 at 11:26 |
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I missed when they stopped production of it! I have owned both a 94 Plymouth Voyager and a 96 Grand Voyager.
Frankly I loved them, but traded my 96 for an 01 ZX3 during the mid 00s gas crisis and have owned a car ever since.
Long_Voyager94
> Takuro Spirit
08/21/2020 at 12:21 |
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I for one will be looking to other brands when it comes time to get another van. The Pacifica and Voyager cost too much for a cheap ass van hiding behind tech, the 9-speed is a mess, and they drive like hot dog shit.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> Takuro Spirit
08/21/2020 at 13:00 |
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I loved our ‘93 Caravan.....still miss that thing....truly sad, but it’s OK, yet more crossovers will replace it! Wait no, that’s stupid, but sadly true :/
BigBlock440
> Roadkilled
08/21/2020 at 14:11 |
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The consumer market went upscale long ago. Toyota and Honda came to dominate the market by providing high-end minivans.
I think we have different definitions of “dominate”...
2019 figures
MM54
> Takuro Spirit
08/21/2020 at 15:07 |
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I’ve had a few Grand Caravans as rentals, they were functionally adequate.
Had one out west, it wasn’t too keen on 85mph cruise across northern Nevada.